Ruth Kirby: Who are you? and A Big Opps!

For years I have been trying to figure out who was my GGG'grandmother, Ruth Kirby Evans.  According to church records, she died on 21 March 1844 in Sherman Connecticut at age 63.   My grandmother, Marion Evans Dakin's notes on her family tree says her great grandmother was Ruth Kirby, born either in "Dover, New York or Canada" and married Jonathan Evans.

According to the Beekman Patent book (vol. 1, page 817), Jonathan was the son of John Evans of Dover, Dutchess County, NY.  By 1800, Jonathan and Ruth are married (probably in Dover) and have a baby, Lydia.  Soon they move over the border to Sherman, Connecticut to a house they built on Evans Hill Rd, and lived in the rest of their lives [Sherman SENTINEL, 16 October 1868 story on the oldest houses in town], and raised their nine children. This old house, even after over 213 years, has been owned by only two families: first Evans and now Mosenthal.

The EVANS family house on Evans Hill Road in Sherman CT
with Charles Evans and Elizabeth Radford Evans
(son and and daughter-in-law of Jonathan Evans and Ruth Kirby Evans).

Born "in Canada" is a bit broad for searching.  So, for years,  I've been looking in the Dover NY neighborhood for a KIRBY family for my Ruth.  There were two KIRBY families in Pawling NY in the 1790 census, George and William.  She died in 1844 at age 63, so in 1790 she would have been about age 9.  Each had white females and so are possible families.  BUT, then I found the Beekman Patent Book (VII, 575-579) has no mention of any Kirby family with a daughter named Ruth born about 1781, including George's and William's families.  This doesn't seem too promising.

So I got to searching recently, wondered if maybe she had been born over the border in Connecticut.  I found a Mrs. Ruth Kirby who died in Litchfield CT, maybe that was my Ruth Kirby's mother and she was named for her mother?  Worth a look.  I was looking a bit closer on GenealogyBank -- a source of old newspapers.

I found widow Ruth Kirby, with neighbors concerned about her and holding a "woodspell" -- a term I had not heard before but clearly a "wood supply" help-your-neighbors-event:

Wednesday 23 January 1805, Republican Watch-Tower (NY, NY), vol 5, issue 333, page 4:

    “Faith, Hope and Charity -- the greatest

of these is charity.”

    Monday the 7th inst, was proposed as a day 

to have a woodspell for Mrs. Ruth Kirby,

widow of Col. Ephraim Kirby, late of Litch-

field, deceased.  On which day received, by way

of presents, upwards of one hundred loads of

wood, excellent both for quantity and qua-

lity.

    Such acts of benevolence, display an hono-

rable trait of goodness in human nature.--

They also demonstrate more than words can

do is what regard the character of Col. Kir-

by and his family are estimated in the town

of Litchfield, where their merits are best

known.

    The greatest order and even solemnity was

visible on the occasion.

Let gratitude in acts of goodness show

  Our love to God, in love to man below.

Be this our joy--to calm the troubl’d breast.

  Support the weak and succour the distress’d

Direct the wanderer, dry the widow’s tear,

  The orphan guard, the sinking spirits cheer.

Tho’ small our power to act, tho’ weak our

  skill,

God see the heart--He judges by the will. 

                      A. Mer.”

Sadly, I found the first death notice for Ruth Kirby, widow of Col. Ephraim Kirby just a month after her delivery of fuel for the winter:

Friday, 22 February 1805, Albany Register  (Albany, NY), vol. XVII, issue 1370, page 2:

“DIED,

At Litchfield, Conn. Mrs RUTH KIRBY, wid-

ow of the late Col. Ephraim Kirby, deceased.”

Followed over a month later by:

Friday, 29 March 1805, Albany Register (Albany NY), vol. XVII, issue 1380, page 2

    “In the account published in our paper sev-

eral weeks since, of the death of Mrs. RUTH

KIRBY, consort of the late EPHRAIM KIR-

BY, Esq. deceased, and which we copied

from the Pittsfield Sun, we are happy in

being able to inform our readers is amply 

contradicted.”

Opps!

I guess Ruth Kirby, upon reading the newspaper could sympathize with a future Mark Twain who sent an 1897 note to London reporter Frank Marshall White, "The report of my illness grew of his [cousin's] illness; the report of my death was an exaggeration." [en.wikiquote/wiki/Mark_Twain]

She did live another 12 years:

“Monday, 3 November 1817, Connecticut Mirror (Hartford CT), vol. IX, issue 19, page 2

“DIED...

--At Litchfield, on the 17th ult. 

Mrs Ruth Kirby, aged 64, relict of the late E. Kirby, Esq.”

The Ephraim Kirby family was in the 1800 census in Litchfield CT but Ephraim had died by the 1810 census.  Searching for any evidence of their children on Ancestry.com, I did find a few people who have put up trees for this KIRBY family, they have no daughter Ruth born any time near 1781.  More recently on Americanancestors.com, I did find the marriage of Ephraim Kirby and Ruth Marvin on 17 March 1784 in Litchfield, CT -- unfortunately that is 4 years after MY Ruth Kirby was supposedly born.

Anyone in Canada have a KIRBY family with a daughter named Ruth born about 1781?

EVANS/MOSENTHAL family house in September 2012
(various additions over the years)

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©2014 Erica Dakin Voolich

Mild-mannered Clerk or Secret Service Agent ... The Rest of the Story!

My mother had fond memories of playing with her grandparents who lived next door.  Her grandfather, Harry Bogart Richardson, told her and her sister stories of his working as a secret service agent in Denver trying to capture people who were shaving gold off of gold coins.  Her grandfather died when she was 15, so she had lots of years to hear those stories.

Was that creative story telling to amuse his granddaughters or was he really a secret service agent?

When he died in 1932 on a vacation visiting relatives in California, his death certificate says he was an insurance agent.  His obituary tells of his church membership and his founding membership (and first president) of the local tennis club.  His son's birth certificate (1890) lists his occupation as clerk.  In the US census for Oak Park IL he is listed as a grocery clerk (1880), dealer in stocks & bonds (1900), broker in a bank (1910), insurance broker (1920), insurance salesman (1930).  Sounds like a pretty ordinary daily life for a middle class family man.  No adventures tracking down crooks in Denver.

The one thing that didn't quite fit to the story of all those years in Oak Park ILLINOIS was that his son graduated from East High School in DENVER on 10 June 1909.  My mother said the family story was that her father was sent to school in Denver because they were afraid of TB and wanted a healthier climate for him.  The school has only Robert W enrolled (not his younger brother) and only one parent was listed as contact (his father).  Robert (Bobbie) enrolled in September 1907.

A few years ago I decided to search for any record of his serving in the Secret Service.  I had to file a Freedom of Information Act request with Homeland Security and send proof that he had died (couldn't send birth certificate since he was born in Canada before vital records).  The paperwork that came back told me that he WAS a Secret Service agent in Denver from 1907-1909, he worked for $4/day and then got a raise to $5/day.  There are probably records in NARA in Washington DC on the daily records for "Operative Richardson" but I have to go to DC to see them.

Yes he was an agent in Denver, BUT, was he capturing people debasing gold coins?

I recently discovered there were some revealing newspaper articles on GenealogyBank.com

Monday 3 February 1908, Denver Post (Denver CO), page 5

“RICHARDSON ASSISTANT

SECRET SERVICE AGENT”

  Harry B Richardson has been appoint-

ed assistant to Rowland K. Goddard,

government secret service agent in Den-

ver.  Mr. Richardson has been working

under L. C. Wheeler on land fraud in-

vestigations for some time, having been

temporarily transferred to the depart-

ment of justice for that purpose.”

So Harry was working in Denver and was moved to the Department of Justice (investigating counterfeiting might be part of the job).

Saturday 4 April 1908, Denver Post (Denver CO), page 4

“DENVER OFFICERS

MAKE GOOD CATCH

OF ‘COIN SWEATER’ 

   ---

Spied on Salt Lake Man’s Lab-

oratory and Saw Him at 

His Work.

   ---

A PROFITABLE CALLING

   ---

About $1 of Gold Taken Out

of Each Coin in Wholesale

Lots.

   ---

   Eben J. Gregory of Salt Lake City was

arrest last Tuesday at his home for

“sweating” gold coins after the officers

had watched his operations from the out-

side for some time and determined ex-

actly what he was doing.  Harry B.

Richardson and W. W. Fraser, govern-

ment secret service men from Denver,

succeeded in locating Gregory after the

$5 and $10 light coins had been de-

tected.

   Gregory has a wife and three children.

When he first went to Salt Lake City

he was a clerk for a mining company;

later he opened a cigar store.  Two years

ago he was forced  to close his store

because a saloon man leased the build-

ing.  When he had to vacate he hung up

placards which bore evidence of his in-

dignation, because he had to leave, one

of them reading, “Give an honest man a

chance to make an honest dollar.”

TURNS MINING MAN

   Then he began to call himself a mining

man.

   About five weeks ago it was found that

something was wrong with the gold coins

circulated about Salt Lake City.  The

chief of police notified the Denver branch

of the secret service department adn the

two men were sent out to find the guilty

person. Gregory had been pasing light

coins daily in big business houses of Salt

Lake City.

   The secret service men watched him

very closely and his methods were re-

vealed.  Nitriuc and muriatic acids were

used, and the face of the gold coin was

given an acid bath so that it looked as

if it had been badly worn.  The other

side was left in good condition.  When

passing the coins Gregory put the perfect

side of the coin up, and the side that

had been tampered with was not no-

ticed.

   The man bought postoffice orders in

his wife’s maiden name and cashed them

at the central office, demanding gold in

payment.  He secured $600 in gold from

the postoffice each month.  He sent to 

other cities for gold coins that had not

been tampered with, and when he secured

enough gold he would cast it in a bat

and send it to the Denver mint.  He was

paid $385.34 for the last shipment March

22.  The gold was so pure that it indi-

cated that it was coin gold and aroused 

suspicion.

COMPLETE LABORATORY.

   While Gregory was getting his shoes

shined the secret service men arrested

him after they had seen him pass three

of the coins. He was placed in jail, and

the men found upon visiting his home

that his laboratory was a most complete

one for his work, and chemists say

could have been used for no other pur-

pose than for the “sweating” of money.

   While studying Gregory’s methods the

officers learned that he seldom left his

house before noon.  He spent the entire

afternoon passing three or four of these

coins, and after dinner at night he would

go to this laboratory and the light would 

burn for an hour.  After working on the

coins Gregory would go downtown and

stay until 2 or 3 o’clock in the morning.

He was a “well-known many about town”

and liberal. Whenever he has been of 

late the officers were shadowing him.

   Gregory said he was a broker, but he

had no office and there was nothing to

show that he was engaged in any active

business,  Banks and other large business

houses usually careful about accepting

gold coins took his money without ques-

tion.”

Great details on what an agent does investigating and how the criminal worked -- even ideas for someone to follow if he wanted to go into the debasing coin business.  Here's the followup article:

Friday 10 April 1908, Denver Post (Denver CO), page 12

“SWEATER OF COIN

WAS TAKEN FOR

WEALTHY MINER 

   ---

Gregory Made is Money Easi-

ly Until Uncle Sam Locked 

Him Up.

   ---

   Eben J Gregory,  the Salt Lake coin

“sweater” who was doing a land office

business reducing the weight of gold

money and sending the surplus to the

Denver mint when captured by Secret

Service Officers Harry B. Richardson and

W. W. Fraser of Denver, after some

clever detective work, comes from a

famous old English family.  He left his 

native country at the instigation of the

Mormons and joined their colony at Salt

Lake about twelve years ago.

   Gregory is only 32 years of age, but

in two years became on of the most

expert “sweaters” of coin in the country.

He had large bank accounts in Salt Lake

City, was known everywhere as a pros-

perous “mining” promoter, although he

never dealt in mines, and his wife and

three children were highly esteemed.

   Gregory was satisfied with from $10 to 

$25 profit each day, and that was about

his average.  He usually bought a cigar

in the morning with his first $5 or $10

gold piece and received silver for the 

change for the reduced gold money he

had given to the dealer.

  After he secured three or four easy

marks he would take the silver to the

bank and have it exchanged for more

gold.  He had a regular daily routine

that varied but little.

   Gregory lived in a double house and

he had his money-reducing plant in the

attic.  The owner of the house lived on 

the other side, but she never dared go

into the attic for fear that she would

be overcome with the acid fumes. 

   Gregory had no accomplices, but it is

believed that his wife knew at all times

that he was conducting an illegal busi-

ness.  The arrest of Gregory put away

the last money swindlers who have

been exceedingly busy in the last few

months in what is known as the Denver

district.”

"Coin sweating" sounds like a profitable business.  Here's another crook, not caught:

Tuesday, 23 June 1908, Denver Rock Mountain News (Denver CO), page 7

accessed on GenealogyBank on 20 February 2014

“BOGUS MONEY PASSED

BY YOUNG MAN ANGERS

EASY VICTIMS AT GOLDEN

   [SPECIAL TO THE NEWS]

  GOLDEN, Colo.  June 22.--Several Gold-

en business men were well stocked up to-

day with counterfeit dollars, giving in ex-

change a small amount of merchandize

and real money.   A neatly attired strang-

er of gentlemanly bearing visited all the

cigar stores and thirst quenching par-

lors and paid for small purchases with

bright new dollars.  In this way he raked

in a pocket full  of small change in two

hours and boarded an electric car for

Denver about the time one of his victims

discovered the dollars were bogus.

   Sheriff Whipple telephone the descrip-

tion of the man to the Denver police but

it was later learned that he left the car

at Lakeside.  Secret Service Agent Harry

Richardson came up this evening to in-

vestigate and pronounced the counter-

feit coins the most perfect he had ever

seen.  It is believed that the man who 

worked Golden was one of the gang now

engaged in systematically flooding Colo-

rado with spurious money.”

Less help in the Denver office, more work for Harry and his partner:

Sunday 8 November 1908, Denver Post (Denver CO), page 22

“SECRET SERVICE AGENT

CALLAGHAN GOES EAST

   ---

  Thomas J. Callaghan, who has been

connected with the Denver district of the

government secret service for upwards

of a year, has received word that his re-

quest for a transfer to the New York

district has been granted, and he will

leave for his new field of work Dec. 1.

He was one of the secret service officers

who was down in the mine at Hesperus

when Joseph A. Walker was killed and

who had to be rescued by a rope after 

one of the party had scaled the walls

and reached the top.

  Callaghan is one of the youngest men

in the service and developed rapidly into 

one of the best as well.

   The change will greatly increase the

work of the two remaining secret service

agents, Rowland K. Goddard and Harry

Richardson, as Callaghan’s place will

not be filled, for a time at least.”

Another crook, this guy was minting his own coins:

Thursday 10 December 1908, Denver Rocky Mountain News (Denver CO), page 7

“SECRET SERVICE AGENTS

ARREST ANOTHER MAN AS

ALLEGED COUNTERFEITER

   ---

   Timothy Duffy of 3351 Kalmath street

was arrested yesterday by Secret Service

Agents Rowland K. Goddard and Harry

Richardson, on a charge of making and

passing counterfeit coins.  A number of

molds and counterfeit coins, said to be

the property of Duffy, were seized at the

same time.

   The prisoner declares that he was fur-

nished with the molds by other men in

Denver, and the secret service officials

are now looking for them. He will be

given a hearing before United States Com-

missioner Hinsdale this week, and if un-

able to give bond will be placed in jail to

await the action of the federal grand

jury.”

Counterfeiting sounds like a profitable second job even for the well-known in the community (as Gregory above)

Monday, 15 February 1909. Denver Post (Denver CO), page 2

“FRANCIS SEARWAY

HELD FOR PASSING

GOLD COUNTERFEIT

  ---

He Is Prominent in Railroad

Brotherhoods and a Glove

Manufacturer.

  ---

COIN FOUND BY CHANCE

  ---

Waiter Positively Identifies Him

As Man Who Passed

One.

  ---

   Frances E. Searway, 330 Nineteenth ave-

nue, glove manufacturer, prominent in the

Brotherhood of Railway Trainmen, a lo-

cal Republican politician of note and a

member o a well known Denver family,

was arrested today by Government Secret

Service Agents Goddard and Richardson

on the charge of passing counterfeit ten

and twenty dollar gold coins.

  His arrest will create a sensation in

railroad circles, as he was one of the

best known railroad men in the state.

He is the legistlative representative of

lodge 446 of the trainmen.  An occupant of

the apartment house were Searway lives 

accidentally discovered a twenty-dollar

gold piece.  Investigating he found sev-

eral others.  Instead of keeping the money

he put it back and reported the matter

to Harry Richardson, the assistant chief

operative of the Denver district of the

secret service.

   The next night all of the money was

gone and suspicion fell on Searway.  Rich-

ardson followed up the clew and with

Operative Goddard secured what they be-

lieved was a complete identification and

evidence of passing on the part of Sear-

way.  The day after the coins were miss-

ing from their hiding place two of them

were passed in Denver.

  Charles Stringer, the night man at

Harry’s restaurant, 616 Seventeenth street,

took one of the coins, a $20 counterfeit

gold piece.  He says that Searway came

into his place at 9 o’clock at night, or-

dered a cup of coffee, sized up the crowd,

conclluded that it was too small and went 

away.

  Stringer says he came back at 11 o’clock

the same night, Feb. 6, when the place 

was crowded, ordered a 25 cent meal and

gave the counterfeit gold piece in pay-

ment, getting silver in change.   Stringer

says he is positive that Searway is the

guilty person, as he had seen him in the

place several times before that.

  The next day, it is alleged that Searway

went into the Grant grocer between the

hours of 6 and 8 o’clock, when the place 

was crowded, bought two dozen eggs and

passed a counterfeit $10 piece.  The clerk

who waited on the passer of the sparious

money also says he is positive that it was

Searway.

   The counterfeits are fairly good and are

made of antimony and tin or [?]

metal.  The twenties were dated [?] and 

the tens 1906.”

I guess those stories of adventures tracking down criminals out west were true.  The mild-mannered clerk took a couple years off and played Secret Service Agent while his son finished high school!  Who knew!  The census gave no clue about his other career.

The link to this post is http://genea-adventures.blogspot.com/2014/02/mild-mannered-clerk-or-secret-service.html
©2014 Erica Dakin Voolich

LOSS or DeLOSS a Family Connection Lost... Can it be Found?

Almost two years ago I wrote a blog post about my GGG'grandmother, Esther DeLoss, from a family trying to be "Lost."  I didn't know anything about her family.  My tree was clipped at her side of that branch.

For years I had been looking for Esther DeLoss, when in reality I should have been looking for Elnora Esther Loss or DeLoss.  Her father Samuel changed his name back and forth between LOSS and DeLOSS.  Possibly when the bill collectors were at the door, Samuel would change his name and move to the next town around upstate New York in the early 1800s.  I wonder what Samuel's life was like when the passage quoted at his funeral was from Job!  His 2-sentence obituary in the Madison Observer in 1851 calls this passage "an appropriate discourse delivered by" the pastor.

When I was searching, I came across another LOSS family researcher, Mary Ann Loss, who had posted on Rootsweb about my LOSS family.  I was the first person to have contacted her in 12 years! 

Since then we have "combined forces."  She came to visit me and brought everything she knew about my LOSS family and her LOSS family. 

It turns out Mary Ann Loss had done extensive research on all the LOSS families in the US.  We have yet to find a connection between the two families in the paperwork.  She started doing DNA tests on her LOSS family members hoping to find another connection.  One day we were talking and she said, "I'm sure the two families are related, I just can't find the link.  You should do a DNA test and see if you match."  

This week my DNA results came in -- it included 50 pages of potential "matches" of varying degrees of closeness.  I was not familiar with the site and so I found a place to type in "Loss" and three names came up as being between 2nd and 4th cousins.  I sent her the link to the page and asked if these were any folks that she knew.  Well, I'm a 2nd to 4th cousin of her father, aunt and cousin!

So here is our problem.  HOW are the two family trees related?  We have not yet found the link with paperwork.

So I've made another blog post today with the two LOSS families, HELP WANTED!! Two LOSS families Looking for Others to Link Them.  Hopefully there is someone who is descended from either a LOSS or DeLOSS family who knows another family member that links these two together.

If you know, contact Mary Ann or myself.

The link to this page is http://genea-adventures.blogspot.com/2014/01/loss-or-deloss-family-connection-lost.html

©2014 Erica Dakin Voolich

HELP WANTED!! Two LOSS families Looking for Others to Link Them

Help Wanted!
The two LOSS families below should be connected ... DNA indicates there is a connection.  You can read the story in my other blog post from today: LOSS or DeLOSS, a Family Connection Lost... Can it be Found?

Can you help?
Do you know anyone named LOSS or DeLOSS?  Possibly someone with a first or middle name who might have a LOSS or DeLOSS ancestor?
How are they related?  Are they they linked to one or both of the families below?

Family #1, descendants of Lewis Milton Loss, belongs to Mary Ann Loss who has been researching both Loss families for years.

Family #2, descendants of John Loss, belongs to me who has been trying to find my GGG'grandmother's family.  I've made some break throughs to get back a couple of generations, thanks to researching my GGG'grandmother's brother Louis Homri DeLoss and also to hints from Mary Ann.

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FAMILY #1

Lewis Milton Loss, born 13 October 1825 at Lenox Furnace, Stockbridge, Madison County, New York, and died on 23 June 1896 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. He married Eliza Ann Albaugh (daughter of Isaac Albaugh and Annis Austin) on 22 January 1852 in Lyons, Wayne County, New York. She was born 28 November 1829 in Phelps, Ontario County, New York and died 15 December 1915 in Rochester, Monroe County, New York.

They had six children Emma Elnora (1853-1866), Warren Hershel (1854-1921), Rosa Ponela (1855-1890), William B (1858-1906), Ida Viola (1862-1864) and Charles Edgar (1865-1925). 

Warren Hershel Loss was born on 1 August 1854 in Lyons, Wayne County, New York, and died on 29 October 1921 in Passaic, Passaic County, New Jersey. He married Frances Helen Arless (daughter of James Arless and Mary Shaw) on 16 December 1879 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. She was born on 21 November 1855 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada and died on 25 June 1949 in Passaic, Passaic County, New Jersey.

They had six children Ina Leah (1880-1968), Hershel Arless (1883-1950), Lewis Milton (1885-1952), Una Lada (1886-1888), Ethel Augusta (1889-1890) and Charles Edgar (1893-1968).

Ina Leah Loss was born on 30 October 1880 in Rochester, Monroe County New York, and died on 31 May 1968 in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. She married John Edwin Fullagar (son of William Fullagar and Fanny Kent) on 13 August 1904 in New York, New York. He was born on 5 June 1880 in Brooklyn, Kings County, New York and died 16 May 1948 in Rochelle Park, Bergen County, New Jersey.

They had three children Dorothea Margareta (1906-1990), Charles Chandler (1910-1993) and Frances Helen (1912-2012).

Herschel Arless Loss was born on 15 February 1883 in Rochester, Monroe, New York, and died 9 February 1950 in Sparta, Sussex, New Jersey. He married Ruth Estelle Davis (daughter of William Davis and Minnie Caroline Frank) on 26 July 1920 in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey. 

She was born 5 December 1893 in Newark, Essex County, New Jersey and did 28 September 1957 in Sparta, Sussex County, New Jersey.

They had four children Warren Herschel (1921-1997), Donald Arthur (1923-1998), Milton Robert (1924- ) and Wilma Ruth (1929- ).

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FAMILY #2

First Generation 

1. John Loss (Loas, Las, Laws). Born in Dec 1733.

In 1769 when John was 35, he married Abigail Stephens. Born in Aug 1733.

They had the following children:

2 i. Samuel (1770-1851)

ii. Hannah. Born on 28 May 1772 in Durham, Connecticut.

iii. Daniel. Born on 2 Jun 1775 in Durham, Connecticut. Daniel died in Durham, Connecticut, on 12 Jan 1788; he was 12.

3 iv. Capt. Moses (1777-1853)

v. Joseph. Born on 28 Sep 1780 in Durham, Connecticut.

4 vi. Benjamin (1784-)

1. Henry. Born on 9 Jun 1786 in Durham, Connecticut. Henry died in Durham, Connecticut, on 26 Sep 1794; he was 8.

Second Generation

2. Samuel Loss. Born on 16 Jan 1770 in Durham, Middlesex, Connecticut. Samuel died in Morrisville, Madison,  NY, on 27 Apr 1851; he was 81.

About 1800 when Samuel was 29, he married Sarah or Esther (Unknown). Born in 1767 in Connecticut. Sarah or Esther died in Calhoun County, Michigan, on 2 Aug 1862; she was 95.

They had the following children:

5 i. Rev. Lewis Homri (1801-1865)

ii. Horace. Born on 12 Jun 1803 in New York state. Horace died in Homer, Calhoun County, Michigan, on 14 Nov 1865; he was 62.

Horace married Cornelia A Fowler. Born in 1812. Cornelia A died in Homer, Calhoun County, Michigan, in 1901; she was 89.

6 iii. Elnora Esther (1805-1889)

7 iv. Sarah A (1807-1884)

v. Betsey.

3. Capt. Moses Loss. Born on 23 Sep 1777 in Durham, Connecticut. Moses died in Skaneateles, Onondaga, New York, on 19 Jul 1853; he was 75.

On 4 Jan 1803 when Moses was 25, he married Susannah Eells in Skaneateles, Onondaga, New York. Born on 8 May 1785 in Middletown, Middlesex, Connecticut. Susannah Eells died in Skaneateles, Onondaga, New York, on 30 Apr 1866; she was 80.

They had the following children:

i. Nathaniel. Nathaniel died in 1834.

ii. Susan. Born in 1803. Susan died in 1836; she was 33.

iii. Lorinedo. Born in 1804. Lorinedo died in 1824; she was 20.

iv. Calvin. Born in 1806. Calvin died in 1807; he was 1.

v. Clarissa. Born in 1807. Clarissa died in 1891; she was 84.

8 vi. Richard Eells (1810-1897)

vii. Roswell. Born in 1812. Roswell died in 1812; he was <1.

viii. Twin. Born in 1813. Twin died in 1813; he was <1.

ix. Susan. Born in 1814. Susan died in 1853; she was 39.

x. Hulda B. Born in 1817. Hulda B died in 1907; she was 90.

xi. Theodora. Born in 1819. Theodora died in 1885; she was 66.

xii. Thankful. Born in 1820. Thankful died in 1895; she was 75.

xiii. Mary Margaret. Born in 1823. Mary Margaret died in 1907; she was 84.

4. Benjamin Loss. Born on 4 May 1784 in Durham, Connecticut.

Child:

9 i. Benjamin Brooks

Third Generation

5. Rev. Lewis Homri Loss. Born on 1 Jul 1801 in Augusta, Oneida County, New York. Lewis Homri died in Marshalltown, Marshall County, Iowa, on 10 Jul 1865; he was 64.

On 10 Sep 1829 when Lewis Homri was 28, he married Sarah Warren, daughter of Benjamin Warren, in Augusta, Oneida County, New York. Born abt 1810 in New York. Sarah died in Joliet, Will County, Illinois, on 2 Oct 1882; she was 72.

They had the following children:

10 i. Herbert (Hubert) W (~1838-1869)

11 ii. Theodore H (1840-<1872)

6. Elnora Esther DeLoss. Born on 31 Aug 1805 in Augusta or Eaton, Oneida NY. Elnora Esther died in Oak Park, Illinois, on 26 Jan 1889; she was 83.

On 8 Nov 1830 when Elnora Esther was 25, she married Nathan Cobb, son of Nehemiah Cobb & Lois Vaughan, in Camden, Oneida County, NY. Born on 27 Feb 1807 in Bath, Lincoln county, Maine. Born on 27 Feb 1807 in Carver, Massachusetts town record for family. Nathan died in Oak Park, Illinois, on 24 Jun 1892; he was 85.

They had the following children:

i. Henry M. Born on 7 Jan 1832 in Camden, Oneida County, NY. Henry M died in Ashtabula, Ashtabula Couny OH, on 24 Nov 1861; he was 29.

12 ii. Elnora Esther (1839-1923)

iii. Dwight M. Born on 27 Feb 1842 in Eaton, Madison County NY.

On 23 Jun 1870 when Dwight M was 28, he married Mollie H Ewing in Galesburg, Knox County, Illinois. Born in 1850.

13 iv. Minnie M (1847-1879)

7. Sarah A Loss. Born on 10 Nov 1807 in Augusta, Oneida County, New York. Sarah A died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, on 2 Mar 1884; she was 76.

On 24 Sep 1828 when Sarah A was 20, she married Hiram Parsons, son of Timothy Parsons & Huldah Porter, in Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. Born on 26 Dec 1803 in Windham, Greene County, New York. Hiram died in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 7 Oct 1850; he was 46.

They had the following children:

i. Henry T. Born on 28 Jul 1829 in Verona, Oneida County, New York. Henry T died in Verona, Oneida County, New  York, on 3 Apr 1830; he was <1.

14 ii. D Loss (1832-1896)

15 iii. Albert McCall (1834-1910)

iv. Elry Porter. Born on 20 Jul 1836 in Stockbridge, Oneida County, New York. Elry Porter died in 1909; he was 72.

On 1 Jul 1857 when Elry Porter was 20, he married Victoria A Mayben in Moscow, Hillsdale County, Michigan.

v. Sarah E. Born on 3 Apr 1840 in Madison, Madison County, New York.

On 17 Aug 1863 when Sarah E was 23, she married Edwin Webb in Brooklyn County, Michigan.

16 vi. Edna A (1849-)

8. Richard Eells Loss. Born on 22 Apr 1810 in Skaneateles, New York. Richard Eells died in Livanna, New York, on 19 Jul 1897; he was 87.

On 6 Jun 1833 when Richard Eells was 23, he married Emily Dilts in Cayuga, New York. Emily died on 25 Feb 1855.

They had the following children:

i. Hira.

ii. Samuel.

iii. Airel.

iv. Hiller.

v. Hulbert.

vi. Frederick.

9. Benjamin Brooks Loss.

Benjamin Brooks married James Haner.

They had one child:

1. Sarah Malantha.

Fourth Generation

10. Herbert (Hubert) W De Loss. Born abt 1838 in Ohio. Herbert (Hubert) W died in Joliet, Will County, Illinois, on 22 Aug 1869; he was 31.

On 14 Nov 1861 when Herbert (Hubert) W was 23, he married Margaret (Maggie) A Mears in Will County, Illinois. Born abt 1838 in Illinois. Margaret (Maggie) A died in Gila County, Arizona, on 5 Apr 1921; she was 83.

They had the following children:

17 i. Frederick Mears (1863-1937)

ii. Hattie E. Born on 24 Sep 1864 in Illinois. Hattie E died in Gila County, Arizona, on 7 Oct 1927; she was 63.

On 21 Oct 1890 when Hattie E was 26, she married William James Eustace in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Born on 5 Dec 1866 in Hannibal, Marion, Missouri. William James died in Gila County, Arizona, on 7 Dec 1942; he was 76.

11. Theodore H DeLoss. Born in 1840 in Elyria, Lorain, Ohio. Theodore H died bef  Feb 1872; he was 32.

On 1 Jan 1861 when Theodore H was 21, he first married Mary Caroline Calder in Cedar Rapids, Linn, Iowa. Born on 3 May 1838 in Cherry Valley, Otsego, New York. Mary Caroline died in Cedar Rapids, Linn, Iowa, on 20 Dec 1862; she was 24.

On 26 Nov 1863 when Theodore H was 23, he second married Elizabeth Mears in Joliet, Will, Illinois. Born on 23 May 1841 in Rock Island, Illinois. Elizabeth died in 566 Oneida St, Joliet, Will County, Illinois, on 5 Sep 1919; she was 78.

They had one child:

18 i. Harry Herbert (1866-1943)

Theodore H third married Annie M (Unknown).

12. Elnora Esther Cobb. Born on 13 Jul 1839 in Rome, New York. Elnora Esther died in Oak Park, Cook County,  Illinois, on 6 Mar 1923; she was 83.

On 12 Feb 1861 when Elnora Esther was 21, she married Robert Searing Worthington, son of Hon. Denison Worthington & Martha Searing, in Cook County, Illinois. Born on 4 Oct 1830 in Albany New York. Robert Searing died in Oak Park, Illinois, on 23 May 1903; he was 72.

They had one child:

19 i. Martha Elnora (1865-1939)

13. Minnie M Cobb. Born on 1 Nov 1847. Minnie M died in Oak Park, Illinois, on 27 Aug 1879; she was 31.

On 28 Sep 1868 when Minnie M was 20, she married John F Reed in Galesburg, Knox County, Illinois. Born in 1847. John F died on 19 Dec 1874; he was 27.

They had one child:

i. Robert F. Born in 1869. Robert F died in 1874; he was 5.

14. D Loss Parsons. Born on 12 Jun 1832 in Verona, Oneida County, New  York. D Loss died in Madison Center, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 14 Sep 1896; he was 64.

On 6 Apr 1858 when D Loss was 25, he first married Helen Hollister. Helen died on 17 Mar 1869 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan.

They had the following children:

i. Frankie L. Born on 10 Jul 1863.

On 7 Jun 1882 when Frankie L was 18, she married Henry C Knights in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan.

20 ii. Nellie (1865-1945)

iii. May. Born on 6 Dec 1865 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. May died in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 9 Aug 1868; she was 2.

iv. Edwin A. Born on 13 Nov 1868 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Edwin A died in California on 25 Feb 1920; he was 51.

Edwin A married Louise Anderson. Louise died aft 1964 in Oregon.

On 17 Aug 1869 when D Loss was 37, he second married Angelica Templer, daughter of James Templer & Ann Liddle, in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Born on 28 Nov 1847 in Duanesburg, New York. Angelica died in Hudson, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 20 Nov 1935; she was 87.

They had the following children:

i. Carl. Born on 30 Jun 1870 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Carl died in Fairfield, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 22 Jul 1901; he was 31.

ii. LaVern. Born on 11 Oct 1876 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. LaVern died in Madison, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 12 Oct 1896; he was 20.

iii. Sarah A. Born on 22 Mar 1878 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Sarah A died in Clayton, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 17 Sep 1900; she was 22.

21 iv. Mary Ethel (1880-1970)

15. Albert McCall Parsons. Born on 12 Jun 1834 in Verona, Oneida County, New  York. Albert McCall died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, in 1910; he was 75.

On 21 Dec 1854 when Albert McCall was 20, he married Marietta Wilcox in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan.

They had the following children:

i. Elestine E. Born in 1859. Elestine E died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, on 4 Oct 1867; she was 8.

ii. Hiram Earl. Born on 15 May 1875 in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan. Hiram Earl died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, on 17 Aug 1875; he was <1.

16. Edna A Parsons. Born on 23 Dec 1849 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan.

On 1 Mar 1870 when Edna A was 20, she married George Brosseau in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan.

They had one child:

i. Frankie L. Born in 1873. Frankie L died in Garnd Rapids, Michigan, on 15 Nov 1879; she was 6.

Fifth Generation

17. Frederick Mears DeLoss. Born in Aug 1863 in Illinois. Frederick Mears died in Cook County, Illinois, on 8 Jun 1937; he was 73.

On 20 Jul 1887 when Frederick Mears was 23, he married Emily J Bastable in Englewood, Cook, Illinois. Born in Aug 1859 in Ontario, Canada. Emily J died in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, on 10 Jun 1935; she was 75.

They had the following children:

22 i. Norman Claybaugh (1888-1956)

23 ii. Harriet (1892-1965)

18. Harry Herbert De Loss. Born on 7 Apr 1866 in Joliet, Will, Illinois. Harry Herbert died in Pinnellas, Florida, on 28 Mar 1943; he was 76.

On 22 Jan 1890 when Harry Herbert was 23, he married Edith Stuart Pettigrew in Will County, Illinois. Born on 28 May 1869 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Edith Stuart died in Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut, on 24 Feb 1950; she was 80.

They had the following children:

24 i. Dorothy Edith (1890-1970)

25 ii. Marjorie (1895-1995)

19. Martha Elnora Worthington. Born on 17 Nov 1865 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Martha Elnora died in Oak Park, Cook County, Illinois, on 25 Apr 1939; she was 73.

On 5 Dec 1889 when Martha Elnora was 24, she married Harry Bogart Richardson, son of William Richardson & Mary A C Bogart, in Oak Park Illinois. Born on 27 Sep 1863 in Belleville, Ontario, Canada. Harry Bogart died in Saratoga, Santa Clara, California, on 1 Jun 1932; he was 68.

They had the following children:

26 i. Robert Worthington (1890-1951)

ii. Harold Bogart. Born on 21 Apr 1894 in Oak Park, Illinois. Harold Bogart died in Saratoga, California, on 4 May 1935; he was 41.

20. Nellie Parsons. Born on 4 Jan 1865 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Nellie died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, in May 1945; she was 80.

On 23 Mar 1881 when Nellie was 16, she married Benjamin Thayer in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Born in 1860. Benjamin died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, in 1947; he was 87.

They had the following children:

i. Louise.

ii. Florence May. Born in 1882. Florence May died in 1882; she was <1.

1. Perry E. Born in 1883. Perry E died in 1910; he was 27.

21. Mary Ethel Parsons. Born on 27 May 1880 in Woodstock, Lenawee County, Michigan. Mary Ethel died in Adrian, Leawee County, Michigan, on 29 Mar 1970; she was 89.

On 28 Mar 1900 when Mary Ethel was 19, she married Henry DeWitt Carpenter in Clayton, Lenawee County, Michigan. Born on 10 Sep 1876 in Rome, Lenawee County, Michigan. Henry DeWitt died in Jackson, Michigan, on 20 Mar 1950; he was 73.

They had the following children:

i. Harold Jarvis. Born on 29 Jan 1901 in Rome, Lenawee County, Michigan. Harold Jarvis died in Hudson, Florida, on 1 Mar 1996; he was 95.

ii. Leah Ruth. Born on 21 May 1904 in Rome, Lenawee County, Michigan. Leah Ruth died in Rome, Lenawee County, Michigan, on 23 Jan 1909; she was 4.

Leah Ruth married Thelma Lucile Sterling.

iii. Donald. Born on 4 Dec 1909 in Rome, Lenawee County, Michigan. Donald died in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio, on 15 Nov 1987; he was 77.

Donald married Elizabeth Alberta Stone.

Sixth Generation

22. Norman Claybaugh De Loss. Born on 23 Nov 1888 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Norman Claybaugh died in Riverside, Riverside, California, on 9 Mar 1956; he was 67.

Norman Claybaugh married Dorothy Carter. Born on 9 Dec 1893 in Illinois. Dorothy died in Riverside, Riverside, California, on 27 Feb 1983; she was 89.

They had one child:

i. Herbert Warren (1920-1990)

23. Harriet De Loss. Born on 27 Mar 1892 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Harriet died in Evanston, Cook, Illinois, on 14 Oct 1965; she was 73.

Harriet first married Nels W Strale. Born on 30 Apr 1890 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.

They had one child:

i. Margaret Allan (1919-1996)

Harriet second married Charles S Williston.

24. Dorothy Edith De Loss. Born on 21 Nov 1890 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Dorothy Edith died in Fairfield, Fairfield County, Connecticut, on 9 Oct 1970; she was 79.

Dorothy Edith married Ralph John Martin Blackburn. Born on 13 Dec 1889 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Ralph John Martin died on 24 Jan 1947; he was 57.

They had the following children:

i. Paul (~1918-)

ii. Edith Pettigrew (1920-2009)

iii. DeLoss (1922-2011)

iv. Ralph Jr. (1923-1987)

25. Marjorie De Loss. Born on 1 Nov 1895 in Evanston, Cook, Illinois. Marjorie died in Bennington, Bennington, Vermont, on 9 Jan 1995; she was 99.

On 22 Jan 1925 when Marjorie was 29, she married Donald Shapleigh Page in Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut. Born on 21 Jun 1893 in Malden, Middlesex, Massachusetts. Donald Shapleigh died in Doctor’s Hospital, New York, New York, on 23 Dec 1940; he was 47.

They had the following children:

i. Marjorie DeLoss (1927-1983)

ii. Dorothy D

26. Robert Worthington Richardson. Born on 18 Oct 1890 in Oak Park, Cook County, Illinois. Robert Worthington died in Berwyn, Cook County, Illinois, on 11 Aug 1951; he was 60.

On 15 Jan 1916 when Robert Worthington was 25, he first married Adelaide Copeland Harvey, daughter of Joseph Elliott Harvey & Alice Copeland, in Oak Park Illinois. Born on 4 Nov 1893 in Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin. Adelaide Copeland died in Houston, Harris, Texas, on 6 Aug 1971; she was 77. They were divorced on 22 Apr 1944.

They had the following children:

i. Dr. Alice Josephine (1917-2001)

ii. Madelon (1920-1986)

On 29 Apr 1944 when Robert Worthington was 53, he second married Marcella Theresa Wittenberg, daughter of Edward Whittenberg & Theresa Sisson, in Chicago, Illinois. Born on 8 May 1910 in Waco, McLennan, Texas. Marcella Theresa died in New Orleans Louisiana, on 28 Aug 1951; she was 41.

They had the following children:

i. Living

ii. Living

So here is our problem.  HOW are these two family trees related?  We have not yet found the link with paperwork.

Hopefully there is someone who is descended from either a LOSS or DeLOSS family who knows another family member that links these two together.

If you know, contact Mary Ann or myself.

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